Showing posts with label Atheism. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Atheism. Show all posts

Tuesday, 5 January 2010

There Probably Is No God... Just Be Good For Goodness Sake

This was my favourite news story of the year.







The reaction was priceless







There is NO OUTCRY IN BRITAIN! lol... We seriously didn't care! We really really didn't care! You can't believe how much we didn't care....

The fact is WE in Great Britain.. have absolutely no interest in what religious people do...


According to the census statistics in 2001, 71% of brits are protestant... but think about this. In the 1600's our King Henry VIII broke free from the catholic church so he could get a divorce from dodgy looking Catherine of Aragon, and have his wicked way with the tasty sex-kitten Anne Boleyn. We called the newly reformed protestant church... The Chuch Of England... get it... THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND.

If we called it "Martin Luther's German Christian Church of Protestants", NO ONE IN BRITAIN would ever mark it down on their census forms. The british people have not cared about religion for a very long time. Bear in mind that the same census in 2001 reported an excellent 0.7% of people claiming to be Jedi Knights, making it the fourth biggest religion in the UK!

http://www.vexen.co.uk/UK/religion.html

There is a religion in the UK, people go every week, people believe in it completely, people love it like they love their own family. It's not christian, it's not Muslim, it's not even Buddhism....

Football is the religion of Britain, it has been since the 1900's. And it is followed far more than any make-believe deity, its attended each week with crowds bigger than any church or mosque could dream of on our isle.



If you walked down a street with a quotation of the bible on your t-shirt, chances are you would be stopped and/or laughed at. We don't thrust our silly ideas at other people, and we don't presume others need to be saved, we don't enjoy being told what to do, especially by people who seem to have no regard for their own rules. Walking down the high street with a football shirt is as normal as baseball hats in the US.

I don't even like football that much, but at least its real.

BIG BIG BIG WELL DONE for the right-wing Fox News to come out with even more rubbish about britain. They are really having a bumper year after their attacks on the british health System. Seriously people... drive 100 miles to see a doctor, have operations without X-Rays, kill people off because they're too old!  Fox News really has made a big effort this year!

Now they manage to take the mickey out of the one group of people saying just be good regardless of what you believe in. We dont see American Humanists bombing buildings, or terrorising abortionist doctors. They just want people to be good to each other.



Wow! I bet Jesus would approve... I seem to remember reading Jesus wasn't a big fan of churches either.

Thursday, 10 September 2009

At least he's not an atheist.

My mother is a Roman Catholic. She was born in a South American country and Latin American countries have strong religious convictions and deep connections with the Pope in Rome. I was brought up in England and was a choirboy in my local Roman Catholic church.

If you didnt know, the official religion of the UK is the 'Church of England', a protestant break-away from Rome, which started up when our most famous King, Henry VIII (he of 6 wives) wanted a divorce from his first wife Catherine of Aragon, to marry the beautiful Anne Boleyn. In the end it was a matter of convenience for Henry, and Martin Luther's protestant movement gained another kingdom in Europe.

The truth is however, that despite the "official religion" being Church of England, the true religion of the UK is apathy. Attendances in UK churches have all fallen, and when approached, most people deny god exists except in a very personal individual spiritualist way. It doesnt make them less moral, or less kind to each other, or less considerate, it just makes them less "religious".

I am however more inclined to Atheism. To me the whole religion thing seems implausible and uncomfortable. For a start, if we were to compare it to a scientific definition, we would have to provide reasonable theory, backed by verifiable facts and experiments. A scientific theory demands rules to be put into place. If one of these rules are broken then the theory breaks down, and you come up with a new one. A scientific theory moves and sways according to the verifiable facts we discover and repeat under scientific conditions. Some more zealous types would say that is one of sciences downfalls. How can you say that science will answer all your questions when it gets things wrong all the time. How long ago was it when science told us the world is flat! Well, we figured it out crazy person, and okay, it was wrong, but the theory changed. Hows about you changing your ideas on stoning your wife if she isnt a virgin, cos my fiance doesnt like the sound of that too much. I know, I know... that was written in a time when Men were Men, Women were worthless, and Sheep were nervous, well... to be honest sheep have always been nervous, but life is better now we have created lube.

Religion is a faith, a belief that certain acts happened, that certain prophesies will come true etc. etc. How do you repeat Jesus' miracles under scientific conditions... well in a hospital perhaps, but we are not exactly using the same method as he is claimed to have done. It's not like doctors can inject people with the spirit of god. If a scientific theory is proved wrong, you just move onto the next one, when have you ever heard of a religion packing in because they got it wrong.

Intelligent Design is a classic example. It basically says "How could you create something so complex as the gills on a mushroom without some grand creator or grand scheme." or to try and put it another way... If you find a sculpture, you can assume someone created it, but if you find a rock, you cant assume that someone created it. Something complex must be designed. And since we're complex, and the world is complex, and the universe is complex... you get it? Yes I agree, it all sounds like tripe, but this is what they want to put in school curriculums across the states as a counter argument to Darwin's theory of Evolution. The fact that there is no evidence whatsoever doesnt seem to bother them. The fact that the rest of the world thinks theyre nutters, and should any one of these kids leave the states to work abroad, and come out with this stuff they will be considered a laughing stock doesnt seem to bother them. Not a lot bothers them to be honest. Well, their newly democratically elected president chatting to the children across the country about responsibility, and staying off of drugs bothers them, but this garbage is perfectly fine.

Well, Mr Creationist and your intelligent Design buddies... there are many many examples of failed evolution, such as the Dodo, which was totally fine and never bothered to learn how to fly because with no land based natural predators, it had no reason to learn. That was until we came along and fried them all with chips and some ketchup. oops.

Thats a simple one, but there are literally thousands of examples of evolution, and only the blindest and most obtuse of zealots would deny that in our lifetimes alone there are countless examples of creatures changing their behaviour because of environmental factors, some of those changes even going so far as to metabolic changes within a few generations. On two Samoan Islands a parasite has been killing off the male members of the Blue Moon Butterfly. By the year 2001, the population of males was down to just 1%, within one year the butterflies had developed an immunity to the parasite and are now making a signficant comeback, up to 40% of the population are now males.

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This happens with just one butterfly, a freak if you will, a butterfly genetically different to others finds itself with an advantage, like a child born with a bigger nose to allow more oxygen to the brain, or with incredibly attractive eyes to attract the best suitors. The butterfly finds it has immunity to the parasite, and when it reproduces, it passes on its defect to its offspring, all of which in turn pass it on until the whole species is parasite free. Meanwhile the butterflies without the immunity die off. This happened across 10 generations or just under one year.

Proof that evolution is real, and works everyday. And also proof that butterflies can really get around when they want to.

Thats verifiable proof, compared to your 'we found a 2000 year old book and it says the world was created in 7 days, so there' its pretty convincing to me.

Now more reasoned debaters will say that Evolution is a mechanism that God uses to influence change. This is a sensible assumption. After all science can only take us to the big bang before it asks the question of "yeah okay, but how did that start?". To me though, the jump from an "originator" to a higher omnipotent power than benevolently watches over us, cares for us, listens to our prayers, will take us away to a new and different and beautiful world when we die and gives his son to forgive our sins, even the ones we havent done yet, is too great a leap for me.  It's like saying we know that gravity exists, so naturally, it must be the giant vacuum cleaner who teaches us by his example that we must remove dirt from our homes and keep our floors clean, because cleanliness in next to godliness and to have a clean home is truly an honour to the great Hoover in the sky. And whilst we're at it, we should all exalt at the great sucky one for giving us moral guidelines on keeping our houses free of dirt, something we would never have figured out on our own.

It's pretty much what the romans did, having a god for everything they didnt understand.

Some people say that you might as well believe in god because if it is true then at least youre in with the right bunch, but then you have to ask which god? If you believe in Jesus, then youre stuffed if Allah happened to be true. What if theyre all wrong. What if God is just playing a cosmic game of Sim City? It makes some sense, after all whenever I play Sim City, I inevitably get bored after a while and decide to set off a volcano, just for a laugh. The fact is that for all we know you might as well believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Now please be careful here, because I have met a few of these Pastafarians, and they're a tough bunch... take the mickey at your own risk, but personally I dont wanna noodle with any of them. They got big Meatballs!

Spaghetti_MonsterThe Flying Spaghetti Monster was created by Bobby Henderson in 2005 as a rebuttal to the move to teach creationism and intelligent design as an alternative to Darwin's theory of evolution in Kansas. In his open letter to the school board he wrote...

"I think we can all look forward to the time when these three theories are given equal time in our science classrooms across the country, and eventually the world; One third time for Intelligent Design, one third time for Flying Spaghetti Monsterism, and one third time for logical conjecture based on overwhelming observable evidence."
Check out the open letter, Wikipedia's facts, and the fabulous Venganza website which also reports any sightings of the great ones noodly appendages below.

http://www.venganza.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster

http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/

However, say the christians, there are no eye witness reports of the flying spaghetti monster curing the sick in Jerusalem over 2000 years ago. No, there arent. And it's not like Jesus was only found in one book. In the Koran he turns up as an important guy, not the main dude mind you, but important nonetheless, so why shouldnt I believe in him, well the truth is that I do believe that Jesus existed.

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I'm just not a believer that he was born of a virgin, that he healed the sick just by touching them, that he fed 5000 with a few loaves and some wine, that he didnt drink or eat for 40 days, that he was the son of god and most of all that he came back to life, walked around a bit, met a few of the old gang and didnt get shot in the head by americans!

I dont believe that the eye witnesses were unbiased and that their evidence would stand up in court today. I dont believe we would accept the claims made by his disciples, just as we dont believe some of the rubbish that comes out today. There was a football commentator not so long ago who found faith, and announced to the world that at the age of 45 he realised he was the Son of God come back to earth for the second time and we should all bow down and follow him... Yeah right! David Icke was his name, and spouting rubbish turned out to be his game.  Personally I think he was better off sticking with football, but either way he was certainly entertaining for a few weeks.

Then theres the question of authenticity. The bible does seem excessively sexist. Does God really want us to treat women so poorly. I just struggle to believe it. My fiance would flip her lid if I treated her the way the bible teaches. I would move from man to eunuch in minutes. It's not very PC when it comes to racism either. Labelling people almost in every chapter. Just imagine for a second if you happened to be one of the pharisees, a land owner and local despot, but overall a nice guy who treated his staff good, well, didnt whip them for spilling the wine, who only taxed people who still had arms to break, and maybe once a month would have a pretty burning at the stake followed by a barbeque and punch for the gathering crowd, no point in wasting the meat ... Oops, no chance sunshine, you're going to hell. Bummer!

Does it not bother anyone else that St Paul, who never ever met Jesus, wrote nearly half of the New Testament, and edited the rest? Im not saying the word bias... Im Implying it. Actually now I'm saying it, but perhaps "Artistic Licence" is better. The Christian Zealots online tell me however that the will of God was acting through Paul when the Council of Nicaea met (yes, Dan Brown did get that bit right int he Da Vinci Code.) I told my fiance it was the will of god that we got freaky deaky with the chocolate body paint last night, but clearly she isnt as religious as me!

73Now, yesterday I went to a mall in Oklahoma. To my complete surprise I saw not one or two, but over ten t-shirts featuring peoples love and devotion to their god, their christian god. I say christian god because I have no idea how much blood would have been shed if one of them had a baseball cap saying "Wake up blessed! Sleep with a Muslim", or if another had "Muslim Ninja" written on her shorts, or even "Muslims wanted! It's a tough job, but the retirement plan is unbelievable!" written over his t-shirt.

mygod2One guy had a tattoo with jesus on the cross on his left arm. I dont really mind people exhibiting their beliefs. I do object to them telling me their devotion to something I consider as real as the tooth fairy, is more important than, say my devotion to watching the international football match, but that kind of comment gets said on an individual basis. I dont have swathes of christians protesting me every morning I turn on the soccer channel, just the odd one or two less reasonable ones getting in my face. Odd though, i'm sure there's a whole bunch of stuff in the Bible about being non-judgemental, clearly you can take the judge out of the judgemental...

Most people leave me alone though, and rarely threaten me with a one-way ticket to hell

My real question though, is that if I were to wear a t-shirt that said "God Doesnt Exist" or "The devil doesnt scare me" or even... "Whilst youre at church I will be having sex!", how many people would come up to me and complain. In the Jackass movie, some guy dressed as the devil practically got beat up for "being offensive". Never mind that seeing t-shirt after t-shirt with religious propaganda might offend me. They all have "religious freedom to express themselves", what about my religious freedom to not be approached randomly in the streets by rabid god-praising carol singers, or have my dinner interrupted by fervent door-to-door salesmen offering me magazines that will save my soul from eternal damnation. What about my freedom to have a little bit of help and support without being drafted into some pseudo-charitable superstition.

It occurs to me that whilst It is clearly not a great time to be a Muslim in america, it's not a good time to be an Atheist anywhere. With no rights, no voice, no representatives, how can we bring some common sense to things. I dont want my world blown up by crazy religious nutters from any denomination. I dont care which team they support. I have had to watch the last 100 years my closest neighbour Ireland tear itself apart over a stupid pointless religious war, and they were on the same side.

I dont need that kind of stupidity affecting my world. Dont we have enough on our plate trying to cope with the effects of Corporate Control, Global Warming, International Drugs Cartels, People Trafficking, the Energy Crisis, Environmentalism, Faltering Economies, Over-extended Banking Institutions, Despotism, Racial and Sexual Prejudice, Serial Killers, Rapists, Pedophiles and Talk Show Hosts.

I ask, I beg, I plead... cant we all combine our great resources, skills, talents and abilities and do something really useful for society, like do something, anything about 'Chavs'. Put them on an island and wait for 200 years before getting beaten at sport by them and then pretending we liked them all along and since we've messed everywhere else up can we please move there, please, please!

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Wednesday, 15 October 2008

The Flying Spaghetti Monster

Now this blog is probably going to do me no favours, but the my-space thing is all about me so, gotta stick my hand in my mouth and go for it.

I have been reading about the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
And whilst i don't believe in the FSM, i cant deny the religious rights the FSM followers are asking for.

In case you don't know about the FSM, according to his followers, He (and I'm only saying he because i don't know what gender he is) created the universe after a night out on the booze which explains why it has so many things wrong with it.

They believe Pirates were the original pastafarians, and have made reference to the rise in global warming being directly related to the fall in pirates.

They claim all 'evidence' for evolution has been planted by the FSM, in an effort to test his followers faith.

According to the faith, there are the '8 I'd really rather you didn'ts', a set of moral guidelines given to Mosey the pirate captain on Mount Salsa

Flying Spaghetti Monster

Whilst I cannot say how devout the 'believers' of this faith are or how rediculous their 'beliefs' are, the message they pervey is one of blind faith. Can we believe in faith blindly? And what evidence is appropriate to refute.

Bertrand Russell, the British philosopher argued...

"If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes.

But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is an intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense.

If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time."

The argument is simple, Russell argues if God exists, then it is down to the believer to prove it, not the non believer.

British Theologian Alister McGraph wrote in his book The Dawkin's Delusion...

"Why is such a book still necessary?", describing the atheist writings of Richard Dawkins.  "... for more than a century, leading sociologists, anthropologists and psychologists have declared that their children would see the dawn of a new era in which the 'God delusion' would be left behind for good.".

The argument of why do we need a book telling us there is no god. If there is no god, then it'll be obvious as time goes on. He goes on to say that Science has neither proved or disproved God.

In my opinion he is completely right, but in my opinion, Richard Dawkins argument about No God being more probable than God (and specifically a monotheistic god such as in Christianity or Islam). He argues that all science deals with probabilities, and the more probable something is the more we can rely upon it to be true.

We have no 'conclusive' explanation for gravity, we have strong theories, but on a micro-level gravity appears not to exist at all. It is because of this and other anomalies we cannot claim we fully understand gravity. I don't know about you though, but just cos we don't understand it, doesn't mean to say I'm not going to get out of the way when i throw a rock in the air.

Maybe its because I have faith that gravity is there.

Mcgraph's premise that because people spend so much effort trying to disprove god means it may be true, is interesting. I can only point out the huge amount of hate mail collected by the church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster predominantly by the christian far right must mean there is truth in there somewhere. It also suggests that the huge protests over the cartoons in Denmark about Allah, must also have some truth behind it.

One letter in particular caught my eye...

I'm a bit confused about this website, and maybe someone would kindly enlighten me… Why take so much trouble to try and dismantle fundamental Christianity if you all sincerely disbelieve it?
I wonder why this whole movement feels like they're so threatened by Jesus if he's not real.

There were many retorts, but this one seemed the smartest.

Do you believe in radical Islam - the Wahabi sect that teaches hatred to nonbelievers and spawns terrorism? No? Then why would you want to dismantle it?

Oh! Maybe because you think it's HARMFUL. Like replacing science with bullshit. This site doesn't try to dismantle Christianity; just the fanatics who want ID taught in schools. We don't need a second Dark Ages, thank you.
It is clear that the site and the religion is mostly followed by people unhappy with the confidence shown by believers of all faiths. Its clear that allowing religion to enter the arena of politics, education and law making, is detrimental to a pluralistic society.

In a free democratic society, certain lines should no be crossed. I don't care what religion the president is so long as he doesn't act according to his or her religion. I believe in religious freedom and rights, provided those rights are not considered more important than the rights of the general population and society.

I appreciate that certain zealots will argue against evolution, claiming Bush's intelligent design as an alternative theory that should be presented in schools as fact in the same way evolution is, but the evidence presented for creationism is circumstantial and unfortunately also fits in with our friends of the church of the flying spaghetti monster. Which is the whole point of course.

At some point we have to say, this is proof and this is not proof. Our whole society relies on us having a provable standard. To Richard Dawkins, proof is defined as maximum probability. Alister McGraphs argument is that maximum probability is too stringent.

My feeling is that we should teach to that provable standard and above. The issues about creationism and the flying spaghetti monster being taught in conjunction with evolution, is as simple as evidential probability. There is far more circumstantial evidence for evolution, than there is for intelligent design. Evolution passes the evidence standard, whereas the planet being 6000 years old, and Adam and Eve being the first two people on the planet, does not.

In the meantime, the parody of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is a welcome diversion that argues a point in a very very silly way. And I'm buying a pirate fish mug!